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i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into high gear. pictures like this, with big bird on the ropes. president obama on the campaign trail. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> reporter: the pentagon, which has been a close ally of the eight foot tall bird, was asked about it at the briefing. >> i'm not going to get into politics here. i wouldn't want to ruffle any feathers, so to speak. >> reporter: but big bird has some conservatives a little plucked. they argue that it's time to stop funding public broadcast programs like sesame street, npr and the pbs news hour. brian darling is with the conservative heritage foundation. >> it's not well spent at all. using public funds to fund different news outlets, to fund entertainment programs, is not what the federal government should b
i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into high gear. pictures like this, with big bird on the ropes. president obama on the campaign trail. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> reporter: the pentagon, which has been a...
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. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. tavis: ari berman is a political correspondent for "the nation" and author of the book "herding donkeys." last year he wrote a piece called "the gop war on voting." much of what he wrote has come to fruition. he joins us from new york. good to have you on this program. >> i am a longtime admirer. thanks for having me. tavis: honored to have you on. let me talk about this piece you wrote for "rolling stone." i don't want people to think we are demonizing or casting aspersions on the gop, but i want you to lay out the facts. is it the case that most of this push, these strict voter i.d. laws, this is being pushed almost exclusively by republicans, yes or no? >> there are issues where democrats and republicans are at fault, where they are both to blame. this is not one of these issues. this is an issue that since the 2010 elections, laws that restrict the right to vote have been passed overwhelmingly by republicans in states with republican legislatures and republican government. that in
. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. tavis: ari berman is a political correspondent for "the nation" and author of the book "herding donkeys." last year he wrote a piece called "the gop war on voting." much of what he wrote has come to fruition. he joins us from new york. good to have you on this program. >> i am a longtime admirer. thanks for having me. tavis: honored to have you on. let me talk about this...
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that's just my point this morning. >> i have a program on pbs, but we don't get any money from pbs to create that programming. it comes through underwriters in foundation. >>> we'll visit monaco land of fun, security and no income tax. you are watching "cbs this morning." cbs "this morning". two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no ot
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we just went on pbs in washington, d.c. and whuc at howard university and we are now on over 1100 stations. it was originally from pacifica radio. that was founded in the bay area 60 years ago. over 300 radio stations take it all over the world. i think this is because of the hunger for independent voices. and to bend, authentic voices -- independent, authentic voice is all over the world. host: we are talking with amy goodman, the host of "to mobocracy now" and author of "the silent majority." caller: good morning. you got your priorities right -- war is hell. if we could negotiate with stalin, we could negotiate with iran. as far as business, we have the highest corporate tax in the world. can adjust lower theirs down to sit -- 15%. guest: i agree that war is hell. i co-authored this book with dennis moynihan as we travel the country and broadcast from all over, bringing out these issues and engaging in discussion about what will make us safer in this country. ultimately, it is about shoring up this country. that will inc
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i like pbs and big bird. and i like you, too. >> i like big bird but he'll be out of a job prompting the rush recreation of @firebigbird that gathered 27,000 followers. and this twit pic viewed over 147,000 times that says, will work for food. an energy bill do? or get the yard ready for cool weather? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, owens corning ecotouch attik insulation is only $11.87 a roll. [ male announcer ] why not talk to someone who owns an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america? ask me about my tempur advanced ergo. goes up. goes up. ask me what it's like to get a massage anytime you want. goes down. goes down. [ male announcer ] tempur-pedic brand owners are more satisfied than owners of any traditional mattress brand. ergonomics. [ male announcer ] tempur-pedic. th
i like pbs and big bird. and i like you, too. >> i like big bird but he'll be out of a job prompting the rush recreation of @firebigbird that gathered 27,000 followers. and this twit pic viewed over 147,000 times that says, will work for food. an energy bill do? or get the yard ready for cool weather? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more...
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i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week this good in a while. he's huge on twitter now. i think his twitter presence increased like 800,000%, and the thing about big bird and "sesame street" is they have so much outside funding. it's not like "sesame street" will disappear. pbs, the subsidy, it's a sizable chunk of their budget and would be a big blow. >>? how much? a perspective? how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of making pbs a political target and not understanding the value the american people place in public bro
i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week this good in a while. he's huge on twitter now. i...
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was really interesting. >> as the presidential parodies start pouring in. ♪ i like big bird, i like pbs >>> nicki versus mariah, round two. why is mariah surrounded by security. >> what we know about the "american idol" feud, behind closed doors. >>> then, christina hendricks offended after being called full-figured. >> as a full-figured woman. >> you just said it again. >>> and why is julia roberts crying? the story behind the shots. >>> "e.t.'s" justin bieber week concludes with a peek inside justin's backstage closet.
was really interesting. >> as the presidential parodies start pouring in. ♪ i like big bird, i like pbs >>> nicki versus mariah, round two. why is mariah surrounded by security. >> what we know about the "american idol" feud, behind closed doors. >>> then, christina hendricks offended after being called full-figured. >> as a full-figured woman. >> you just said it again. >>> and why is julia roberts crying? the story behind the...
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take a listen. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big board, i like you, too. >> robny would cut it. the comment, as you might imagine, received a massive response online. >>> george washington students held a watch party on campus tonight. most of the students we talked to say they are relieved the candidates are finally getting down to the issues and putting the attack ads behind them. they agreed this year the college vote will influence who comes out on top. here's what a few students had to say after watching the issues. >> like obama said, changing last minute. >> in the beginning, romney's five points are really along the lines of what my five points would be, but at the same time, the way that he want -- >> the vice president candidates will face each other later this month as well. >>> now todd news edge in maryland. a voter watchdog group says it uncovered voter fraud. the group election integrity maryland claims it found evidence that some people registered to vote using the names of dead people or registered to vot
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i like pbs. i like big bird. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> there are some snap polls including this one that says among uncommitted voters, mitt romney was the clear winner last night. he may get a boost in the polls. the question is will it last? in washington, doug luzader, fox news. fox news. >> also related to last night's debate, the brand kitchen aid is apologizing for an offensive political tweet. the post, which has now been removed, was sent out from the company's official account during the presidential debates. it read, obama's gma or grandma even knew it was going to be bad. she died three days before he became president. now, the tweet was sent after mr. obama referenced his grandmother during the debate while talking about medicare and social security. the company apologized to the president. she said the tweet was carelessly september in error by a member of our twitter team who needless to say will not be tweeting for us anymore. >>> mo
i like pbs. i like big bird. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> there are some snap polls including this one that says among uncommitted voters, mitt romney was the clear winner last night. he may get a boost in the polls. the question is will it last? in washington, doug luzader, fox news. fox news. >> also related to last night's debate, the brand kitchen aid is apologizing for an offensive political tweet. the post, which...
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he made a straight shot at the moderator, pbs' jim lehrer. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs, i'm going to stop other things. i love pbs, big bird, i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris, remember what he told us, he warned us a long time ago, we should have listened, he said he liked firing people he came out on the stage and demonstrated it for us. he was having a wonderful time. this is what we used to do at bain capital, we made a lot of money, this is what i'll do when i'm president. it's easy, just like that. he fired him. >> didn't it seem like he was the boardroom chair, walked into the boardroom, put down his papers, as if there didn't need to be anybody else in the room except employees, some of whom won't be employees much longer. it's a dominant, dominant performance. again, back to the president. what do you think was going on in his head? you have to be in the moment. i would have been terrified if i were the president thinking how dud this person, this not really great governor,
he made a straight shot at the moderator, pbs' jim lehrer. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs, i'm going to stop other things. i love pbs, big bird, i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris, remember what he told us, he warned us a long time ago, we should have listened, he said he liked firing people he came out on the stage and demonstrated it for us. he was having a wonderful time. this is...
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pbs's jim lehrer. let's watch. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris, remember what he told us, he warned us a long time ago, we should have listened, he said he liked what? firing people. and he came out on the stage and demonstrated it for us. he was having a wonderful time. he well lirelished every moment. this is what we used to do at bain capital and this is what i'll do even when i'm president. eas easy. >> he took over the room as if there didn't need to be anybody else in the room except employee, some of whom won't be employees much longer. again back to the president. what do you think was going on in his head? you said you have to be in the moment. i would have been terrified if i were the president thinking how did this person, this not really great governor, this guy who was not really a person in so many ways politically, how is he dominating this air space right now, how can that be happening? >>
pbs's jim lehrer. let's watch. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> chris, remember what he told us, he warned us a long time ago, we should have listened, he said he liked what? firing people. and he came out on the stage and demonstrated it for us. he was having a wonderful time. he well lirelished every moment....
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. >> i'm is going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. i like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> reporter: seconds after governor romney uttered those world twitter nearly tumbled over. at one point 17,000 big bird tweets per minute. "the social network" said it was the most tweeted about political event in u.s. history. ari fleischer, big bird needs to ask dora the explorer how she manages to live without taxpayer money. try it big bird. joan rivers, attention pbs, if mitt romney fires big bird i'm ready to fill in. i got the perfect outfit. president obama did not pounce directly during the debates but he did thursday on the trail. >> when he was asked what he would actually do to cut the deficit and reduce spending, he said he would eliminate funding for public television. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. >> reporter: last night the late night shows had fun with it too. [ blee
. >> i'm is going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. i like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> reporter: seconds after governor romney uttered those world twitter nearly tumbled over. at one point 17,000 big bird tweets per minute. "the social network" said it was the most tweeted about political event in u.s. history. ari fleischer, big bird needs to ask dora the explorer how she...
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stop this to pbs. i like pbs, big bird and you too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: the two men will square off again october 16. bigad shaban, cbs news, denver. >>> both men hit the campaign trail today and the president will hold a rally in denver and wisconsin. mitt romney will be in virginia campaigning with his running mate. >>> last night we teamed up with our counterparts at our sister newspaper "u.s.a. today" for a fact check session. >> every statement the candidates made was immediately dissected. derek mcginty has more with the "u.s.a. today"'s political editor. >> reporter: there was a lot to talk about, a lot of facts, especially the $5 trillion in tax cuts. president owe bottom ma -- president obama says that's what romney wants to do romney says not me. >> his central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. that's another trillion dollars and $2 trillion in additi
stop this to pbs. i like pbs, big bird and you too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: the two men will square off again october 16. bigad shaban, cbs news, denver. >>> both men hit the campaign trail today and the president will hold a rally in denver and wisconsin. mitt romney will be in virginia campaigning with his running mate. >>> last night we teamed up with our counterparts at our sister...
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i'm going to stop other things -- i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: big bird stayed way up past his bedtime to appear on "saturday night live." >> do you have any political statement you would like to make? >> no, i don't want to ruffle any feathers. >> reporter: first up here in los angeles, president obama will attend a small fundraiser with former president bill clinton and then he will attend a production at the theater tonight. vice president joe biden is getting ready for thursday night, and it is somewhat in damage control mode. lester? >> we want to turn now to our political director and chief white house correspondent chuck todd. chuck, the debate, the positive numbers we noted potential game changers for both candidates last week, how do you expect they'll try to build off this week? >> they're trying to go on the air using the debate in tv advertisements to try to sort of blunt some of the debate momentum that romney got. but i also know that behind the scenes, there is a little bit of the confronting of the pr
i'm going to stop other things -- i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: big bird stayed way up past his bedtime to appear on "saturday night live." >> do you have any political statement you would like to make? >> no, i don't want to ruffle any feathers. >> reporter: first up here in los angeles, president obama will attend a small fundraiser with former president bill clinton and then he will attend a production at the theater tonight. vice president joe...
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frustrated is failure to use the synapse to pop out and sitting here talking you and ji jim lehr about the pbs funding which is okay and cute and fun to talk about, how about the auto industry, i rescued it and you would let it go bankrupt. >> i am if for equal pay of women, he didn't bring up things and let romney get by with some really distracting and really unclear, in fact, untrue statements about healthcare where he said i am for coverage for preexisting conditions, his people later on said he wasn't and he said, in fact, before that he never was really for covering preexisting conditions unless, you know, it is paid for, ahead of time during, you know, continuing coverage, and a couple of times in the last week he said things like well if you get sick we won't let you die in your apartment and get you to er and yet came on last night talking about a national health plan he had which he really doesn't have. i thought he got away with a lot of things showing sympathy for social security recipients when in the tape recently exposed it was clear he had no sympathy for people he sees as para
frustrated is failure to use the synapse to pop out and sitting here talking you and ji jim lehr about the pbs funding which is okay and cute and fun to talk about, how about the auto industry, i rescued it and you would let it go bankrupt. >> i am if for equal pay of women, he didn't bring up things and let romney get by with some really distracting and really unclear, in fact, untrue statements about healthcare where he said i am for coverage for preexisting conditions, his people later...
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the debate was hosted by pbs' jim lehrer. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs, big bird and i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending things and borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: after the comment was made, there were 17,000 tweets per minute for the words "big bird ,," 10,000 for pbs. this debate really dominated twitter more so than either of the conventions. it was really pretty incredible. i'll have more on that and more from what the candidates had to say about medicare, taxes coming up at 5:30. back to you. >> really interesting. fall pledge drives have started at your local public tv and radio. >> big bird will have to take a pay cut. >>> we had a couple of former local politicians watch the debate in our studio last night. former congressman tom periello of virginia conceded mitt romney won the night but he may have to pay the price for his strong performance. >> his policy positions are completely opposite from everything he said the last 18 months. i think he came across strongly b
the debate was hosted by pbs' jim lehrer. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs, big bird and i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending things and borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: after the comment was made, there were 17,000 tweets per minute for the words "big bird ,," 10,000 for pbs. this debate really dominated twitter more so than either of the conventions. it was really pretty...
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"women's choice" airs tonight on most pbs stations. find a link to "need to know" and much more on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. ray. >> suarez: and that's the newshour for tonight. monday is the first monday in october, so we'll preview the supreme court's new term. i'm ray suarez. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. "washington week" can be seen later this evening on most pbs stations. we'll see you online, and again here monday evening. have a nice weekend. thank you and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation. dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy, productive life. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. captioning sponsored by macneil/lehrer productions captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
"women's choice" airs tonight on most pbs stations. find a link to "need to know" and much more on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. ray. >> suarez: and that's the newshour for tonight. monday is the first monday in october, so we'll preview the supreme court's new term. i'm ray suarez. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. "washington week" can be seen later this evening on most pbs stations. we'll see you online, and again here monday evening. have a nice...
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romney made a point he'd cut the budget for pbs, even to the and moderator, jim lehrer from pbs. >> i like pbs, big bird, you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money. >> i want to make sure i got this straight. he'll get rid of regulations on wall street, but he's going to crack down on sesame street. >> the debate was civil. but today a key romney surrogate said this. >> what people saw last night was a president that revealed his incompetencies, how lazy and detached he is. >> did you really mean to call barack obama lazy? >> he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> now, the pressure is on paul ryan and joe biden in a debate next week. >> i don't want to say anything in the debate that's not completely accurate. >> and the stakes are a lot higher for the president to come up with a different game plan for his next debate with mitt romney two weeks from now. brian? >> andrea mitchell remains in denver tonight. thanks. and, of course, thanks to social media, getting reaction to a debate isn't a morning-after thing anymore. it's a real time thin
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it airs tonight on pbs. find a link to "sounds tracks" and much more on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. >> woodruff: and again to our honor roll of american service personnel killed in the afghanistan conflict. we add them as their deaths are made official and photographs become available. here, in silence, are nine more. >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. on monday, we'll look at the presidential candidates on foreign policy. i'm judy woodruff. >> brown: and i'm jeffrey brown. "washington week" can be seen later this evening on most pbs stations. we'll see you online, and again here monday evening. have a nice weekend. thank you and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: intel bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> and by the bill and melinda gates foundation. dedicated to the idea that all people deserve the chance to live a healthy, productive life. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... this program was made possible by
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i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow from china to pay for it. >> mother [ bleep ] fired big bird! romney could have water boarded aladdin, put down blue, deported dora the explorer, and still won walking away. romney won with the sound up. >> you're entitled, as a president, to your own airplane and house, but not to your own facts. >> romney won with the sound off. dude, he's yelling at you. look up! look up! what are you looking at? what are you writing that's so important? what are you doing? oh, that's nice. i didn't realize. that is impressive work. i didn't realize that. maybe you could give that to mitt romney as a souvenir of night he crushed you in that debate. >> that is some nice work. stephen colbert dancing with "glee" last night. can we listen to this? here's colbert coming into the studio after the romney debate performance. ♪ really feeling it with colbert. he zeroed in on the tax plan romney laid out. the proposal was
i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow from china to pay for it. >> mother [ bleep ] fired big bird! romney could have water boarded aladdin, put down blue, deported dora the explorer, and still won walking away. romney won with the sound up. >> you're entitled, as a president, to your own airplane and house, but not to your own facts....
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. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. that's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. but that's what we heard last night. >> bret: in all seriousness, pbs released a statement today and they said, quote, we are very disappointed that pbs became a political target in the presidential debate. governor romney does not understand the value of american people place on public broadcasting and the outstanding return on investment the system delivers to our nation. the federal investment and public broadcasting equals about one, 100th of 1% of the federal budget, elimination of funding would have virtually no impact on the nation's debt, yet the loss to the american public would be devastating. there are some people who say that that was not the best thing to mention, bringing up big bird. >> you're talking about somebody who does like
. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. that's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. but that's what we heard last night. >> bret: in all seriousness, pbs released a statement today and they said, quote, we are very disappointed that...